Razer Vs. Logitech - Review

Postby Wired » Thu Aug 18, 2005 6:33 am

Clash of the Titans ode de gaming mice.

For the longest time, I've had logitech. Tried, Tested, and True. They're more than worth their money in most cases...and last longer than almost any other brand.

When I was first starting to play Instagib, I went n' bought myself an Mx310...thinking "Hey, it's an Mx mouse...maybe it'll be better than the Microsoft optical I have." It was. But it wasn't enough.

Upgraded to the Mx500 upon recommendation from Shadow. Very pleased with the results, and performed even better than it's little brother. The Mx510 was supposedly a step better, but the differences were VEEEEEEEEEERY small...almost indistinguishable. The Mx518 on the otherhand, yes, there was quite the bit of difference, as well as an "on the fly" option for added control of movement of the mouse. I skipped the 510 and the 518....for the Mx1000. The first Laser mouse. (and yes, there's a difference between optical and laser.)

Incredibly sensitive...almost TOO sensitive. The mouse was ANNOYING to tweak in. Took me almost 2 months to do so, just so where it was usable in UT99. (However, once tweaked in...it worked nicely...I'll give it that.) The other problem with it: It's wireless. Fast RF delivers practically corded speeds, that's true. However, the battery, and the Fast RF hardware inside the mouse, made it 2x as heavy as any other battery operated mouse. Another thing to get used to.

Recently...I dropped the Mx1000 onto the floor accidentally while moving some stuff around on the desk, and it quit working. I sure as hell wasn't going to pay $80 for another Mx1000...so I went to the store looking for alternatives and saw something on the shelves that I hadn't seen before... the Razer Diamondback.

Figured, "Ah what the hell...why not try someone else for a change?" I must say, it's quite the little piece of work. Comfy in either hand, light weight, and if possible...more sensitive than the Mx1000. As an Optical mouse, it's got Logitech beat at the moment. I've practically got the thing tweaked in where I like it...and was makin' shots earlier tonight like I was in my prime again. Turned CivilWar2 into a "No fly zone". :lol: All in all...if you've got an extra 60$ burnin' a hole in your pocket, your mouse is gettin' a little old, or you just want to try something new...I'd get the Razer Diamondback this time around. Might make your games seem like they've got a more life than you remember 'em having, and might make the experience of playing 'em a LOT better.

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Postby Caladus » Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:10 am

Yeah, Razer makes a nice gaming mouse man.
I've used a RazerBoomslang 2000 for several years and LOVED it. Finally got tired of keeping the ball clean (we have pets) all the time. I still own it but, have opted for the more conventionally shaped Mx510 and optical.
Both are good mice, just didn't know that Razer was still in biz when I bought my 510. Prolly would've bought one of their opticals instead.
They've had their share of financial woes and have shutdown several times in the past. Hopefully the latest owners can make a go of it!


Logitech has a new gaming version of its laser mouse. Looks interesting. <a href='http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2288,CONTENTID=10716' target='_blank'><span style='color:blue'>Linkation</span></a>
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Postby Wolv » Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:29 am

I've been using the MX1000 - love it. It definitely feels a lil different from the MX500, but every mouse I've upgraded to since I first started playing UT has had a different feel (6-8 diff mice). I just adapt to it over time. Shot is finally starting to come back. Must mean I'm playing too much UT :unsure:

Sounds like the Razer is a lil cheaper, which is nice. Definitely don't mind a lil competition with Logitech, altho I've been pleased with their products since I've started using them.
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Postby Wired » Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:52 am

Caladus wrote:Yeah, Razer makes a nice gaming mouse man.
I've used a RazerBoomslang 2000 for several years and LOVED it. Finally got tired of keeping the ball clean (we have pets) all the time. I still own it but, have opted for the more conventionally shaped Mx510 and optical.
Both are good mice, just didn't know that Razer was still in biz when I bought my 510. Prolly would've bought one of their opticals instead.
They've had their share of financial woes and have shutdown several times in the past. Hopefully the latest owners can make a go of it!


Logitech has a new gaming version of its laser mouse. Looks interesting. <a href='http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2288,CONTENTID=10716' target='_blank'><span style='color:blue'>Linkation</span></a>



Razer's got something similar called the "Copperhead", and doesn't have that god awful green color. (or the weight problem that battery mice have.) I'll most likely have one the day of it's release. Supposedly out nearing the end of this month.

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Postby Wolv » Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:58 am

The G7 looks sweet. $100 is pretty steep tho...
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Postby Z » Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:14 am

I love the looks of that Diamondback Plasma!
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Postby Wolv » Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:42 am

Are those razers corded?
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Postby Hazerduz » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:03 pm

I've been using my $20 dollar Microsoft Optical since like 2000 :lol:. I am scared to change to another mouse because I don't want to try and adjust the way I shoot in games.
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Postby Killa_N_Manila » Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:00 pm

MX 510 now, but will get the G5 most likely when it becomes available...
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Postby Caladus » Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:48 pm

Wolv wrote:Are those razers corded?



From looking at the images on their site it appears that they are corded Wolv.

Question- You fellers with cordless mice, how critical is the "line of site" from the mouse to the receiver?

I've been hesitant to go cordless due in large part to my desks arrangement. My keyboard sits tucked just under the leading edge of my crt and my mouse surface is actually about 2" lower on a drawer with a worksurface over it.

Knowwhaddimean? :huh:
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Postby Wolv » Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:13 pm

Bleh - not a fan of cords.

Cal - I have a setup on a pc similar to what you describe. While it does the job, it can get glitchy sometimes. I'm wasn't sure if it was the line of sight, or the microsoft cordless itself.

Just for the helluvit I just tried using my MX1000 on my chair, which is a good 6 inches under my desk. It worked just fine.
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Postby Caladus » Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:34 pm

B) Kewl, thanx Wolv!
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Postby Wired » Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:32 am

True, they've knocked out most of the problems of the transmission of wireless mice...there's still a slight lag in response time by comparison to a corded mouse. Although I will say that the Mx1000's Fast RF transmission lag is almost unnoticable and can be adapted to easily.

And dammit...I'm gonna have that copperhead.
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Postby Caladus » Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:33 pm

Just stumbled across this. <a href='http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002UM0JW/ref%3Dnosim/techbargainscom/104-5446306-3112725' target='_blank'><span style='color:red'>Logitech MX1000 Cordless for $36.29</span> </a>
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Postby Wolv » Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:46 pm

Caladus wrote:Just stumbled across this. <a href='http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002UM0JW/ref%3Dnosim/techbargainscom/104-5446306-3112725' target='_blank'><span style='color:red'>Logitech MX1000 Cordless for $36.29</span> </a>




NICE! Thats a bargain. You will love it.
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